Thoughts on the Well Deserved Death of Osama Bin Laden and some Christian’s Crocodile Tears for his Soul

Note: This is one of my Denny Crane moments indulge me

Osama Bin Laden got his just deserts yesterday at the hands of the Navy SEALS of Seal Team Six known simply as DEVGRU to those that have served in the SEAL and EOD community.  A head shot and a chest shot and Osama was off to meet his 72 Virginians via Davy Jones Locker.  Rumor has it that a pack of sharks trolling behind the USS Carl Vinson for lunch noted his enshrouded body sinking into the depths and passed on it leaving it to sink to the depths to be devoured by bottom feeding creatures.  When they were asked why they didn’t chow down on the murderous yahoo from Yemen one was quoted as saying “He gave our profession a bad name.”

All kidding aside I am glad he is gone and if I could have been in Washington DC, at Ground Zero or at the Phillies Mets game http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Video-Phillies-fans-chant-8216-U-S-A-8217-?urn=mlb-wp5081  I would have partied all night long and I cannot imagine any American or for that matter any decent human being not celebrating this.  The good guys got a win for once and we should celebrate we deserve it. We haven’t had much to celebrate since September 11th 2001 and this is as good of occasion as any.

Now I know that I’m going to get some crap from some readers that this is not a Christian attitude and I will admit that they are probably right.  I know this to be a fact because I saw absolutely idiot comments from some of my Christian friends on a social ministry sight almost shedding crocodile tears about Bin Laden’s death saying that God doesn’t take any joy in the death of the unrighteous but if you are a good Old Testament type Calvinist, which by the way I am not by any means, you can interpret parts of the Old Testament as God having one big party as he has his people whack and shwack their enemies ethnically cleansing whole cities so they might have a place to live. Heck the Psalmist even rejoiced in bashing babies heads against big rocks.  Not a very pro-life sounding message there but it is the Old Testament and happens to be in vogue among some parts of Evangelicalism.  Thus to hear some of the same people who love to use these “imprecatory prayers” against fellow Americans on the opposite side of the political aisle cry these faux tears over the soul of Bin Laden it makes me sick.

The man was a brutal killer and thug who killed thousands of our own people and thousands of others, many which were his fellow Moslems.  Some of these folks such as Pat Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell and even the recently deceased David Wilkerson and others even told us back after 9-11 that it was “God’s judgment on this county.”  I remember the aftermath of the September 11th 2011 attacks and seeing the internet for the first time in days after being locked down aboard Camp LeJeune NC. I was aghast to see some of these men and others that this was God’s judgment on America.  Of course when many of their own congregations and donors objected most retreated from their positions with immense “mea culpa” moments.

Back in the 1960s it was the liberals that said we were the bad guys for Vietnam and punished those that served in that war.  Now days it is a bit different especially because we have a Democrat in the White House, a black one without a good American name like Bob we have conservative Christians acting like the liberals of the 1960s crying over the death Che Guevara and extolling the Chinese “Cultural Revolution.” For some reasons and I can’t imagine why there seems to be such a loathing of their own country by such people. Sure we are not perfect and we have messed up a lot. If you read this site I am not uncritical of various actions of different Presidents, Congress or any part of our government and some of our actions around the world.  We’re not a perfect nation but but we still are one of the best shows in town. But I’ll tell you what I love this country and continue to serve her and defend the rights of all Americans to hold views about the country that I personally distain. But that is why I love the Good Old USA because we don’t have to agree to be Americans; well at least that’s what I think.  But sometimes when I see comments like this crying for Bin Laden’s soul and condemning the country I wonder what the hell is going on. I see them criticize the very country that gives them the right to criticize their government with impunity, even using the “judgment of God card” as they wish.  In fact that is why the Pilgrims and other English Separatists came here so they could criticize the crown without being harassed and ensured that those that disagreed with them couldn’t do so safely without having to go establish the Rhode Island Colony like Roger Williams did.  But I digress….

When I see such comments mourning Bin Laden or assuming that God’s judgment is on America I feel my inner Colonel Nathan R. Jessup rising up especially when I see so few of them flocking to the colors and run to the recruiting stations saying “here I am send me Sir!” You see it is so easy to theologize and criticize but so much harder to put your life on the line. However if you secretly loathe the country it is easy to condemn those charged with protecting it from the Commander in Chief down, especially when you claim God as your authority.  I love this quote from the great film A Few Good Men coming from Colonel Jessup played most delightfully by Jack Nicholson and I think it suits my mood right about now:

“Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.” 

Now our forces from the Commander in Chief down did their jobs and did them well in providing Bin Laden an exit from his internet less misery in Pakistan.  I for one celebrate this event. If this makes me somehow less spiritual or Christian so be it. I am an American and Osama Bin Laden was our enemy personified. So go ahead and weep for Bin Laden if you wish my fellow Christians. Pray for his soul but let the rest of us enjoy a moment of victory in this painful and long war in which so many Americans and others have died because of the actions of Osama Bin Laden and his minions.  Don’t piss on their memory by feeling bad that Bin Laden didn’t get a chance to meet Jesus in this world.

Yes I’m a bit snarky today but I haven’t forgotten September 11th and I am glad that so many Americans are overjoyed by this. For once we got one in the win column.  We’re entitled to celebrate because we get to go back on the field tomorrow and hopefully whack some more of Bin Laden’s slugs.

Peace

Padre Steve+

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10 responses to “Thoughts on the Well Deserved Death of Osama Bin Laden and some Christian’s Crocodile Tears for his Soul

  1. John Erickson

    Boy, you have guts, Padre. I remember one of your previous “Denny Crane” entries – I still have scars from the collateral damage! 🙂
    Did you hear the coincidence at the Phillies-Mets game? Two states involved with the 11-September attacks (Pennsylvania and NY), and the crowd started finding out in the 9th inning, score tied at 1-1, making the 911 connection. CNN came up with that reach!
    I don’t know how much of a strategic victory this is, since Bin Laden hasn’t really been “hands-on” in a while, but it’s a welcome morale victory for our country, and with luck will not lead to a rash of attacks. And God Bless those Special Forces folk, especially the SEAL team. With the exception of one helo that landed hard and had to be destroyed in place, it was textbook! (Sorry, I’m still haunted by memories of Somalia and “Black Hawk Down”.) Bravo Zulu all around!

    • padresteve

      John
      I try my friend. Heck I figured that I have been riling people up for the past few days that was needed. Besides I had to turn off the comments on the David Wilkerson article because they were getting repetitive and boring. I got tired of answering the same questions time and time again from critics that never bothered to really read the post or Wilkerson’s writings. But what can I say?
      Have a good night and blessings, I do a funeral for a retired Master Chief tomorrow keep me in your prayers.
      Peace and blessings
      Steve+

      • John Erickson

        I don’t blame you on shutting off the Wilkerson comments. Too many people missed the point, and there are folks out there you just can’t reason with. I’ve had my fair share as well.
        I’ll tell you what. Let me know what time the Master Chief’s funeral is, okay? And I’ll say a prayer for both of you. You deserve it. And I grieve for him, even though I don’t know him. Because every soldier deserves a stranger somewhere, saluting a flag for him at the end.
        It’s the least I can do, and it would be a great honour. God Bless you, Padre, and Godspeed to the Master Chief.

  2. Tom Persaud

    Things are moving fast in this world. David Wilkerson’s death on 4/27/11, soon followed by Osama Bin Laden on 5/2/11. Both impacting millions of lives from opposite ends of the spectrum. Was it the skill of our Intelligence, or did Obama get lucky (unlike Jimmy Carter in Iran), or was this spiritually orchestrated? I cannot help but to think of the spiritual negotiations between Satan and God over the testing of Job. If these are the last days, with Satan loosed to rule the world, could there have been an agreement between God and the devil – to give up Wilkerson for Bin Laden? Perhaps a test to see if the righteous can discouraged and weakened (given the nature of Wilkerson’s death) and to see if their enemies will be incited with the loss of their leader?

  3. Daniel

    I have a word to say about the killing of Osama and some of the comments I’m seeing on facebook and the internet abroad and my comments are going to be long winded and probably more deep than most will be interested in reading but I’m going to post this anyways in the hopes that it sheds some light the fact that we as Christian Americans or otherwise can feel “relieved” or “justified” without feeling remorse or shame over Osama’s death. I’m going to keep opinion to a minimum because opinions are worthless and meaningless in this type of discussion / message.

    Let me first start by saying a couple of things you should understand before reading this post. I would discourage you from reading or commenting unless you agree with me in these respects because they are BEYOND opinion…

    1. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. This is recorded in Hebrews 13:8. Let’s remember that the old testament is COMPLETELY valid today as a character reference / mold for today’s christians. The old testament contained stories of some of the most influential people in Christian history for reasons either good or bad. In this case I’ll be talking about David, who was one of the most upstanding and righteous leaders in history, much less our Christian heritage…

    2. 2nd Timothy 3:16 says: Every scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.

    3. I believe in what the bible says. I don’t let religion, politics or personal opinions effect my belief of what the bible says. If it’s in the bible, I believe it. I don’t care if its a lifestyle choice that I’ve made and been doing my entire life, if I miraculously find that the bible says its wrong, then ITS WRONG.

    4. I am one of those crazy christians that still believes that we are one nation UNDER GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all [addition: unless we continue on this path of irreverence and self destruction which ultimately leads to a nation divided.]

    Ok so here are my thoughts. Psalm 109 is a psalm in which David prays not only for the destruction of his enemies who are not just his enemies but the absolute epitome of evil in every sense of the word, but he prays for the destruction and enhanced trouble and hardship for his enemies.

    Verses 1 to 5 of the psalm explain two concepts that are very important for Davids prayer of imprecation. David was a VERY smart man and he knew that the Lord would NOT like this prayer very much if a couple things were not going on. One, he claims his complete and total innocence. Secondly he claims the sinfulness, disobedience, blasphemy and outright evil of his enemies. David is begging for God’s help in destroying these enemies because he has done good to them, which they have returned to him with evil actions.

    These verses lead to two speculations about imprecating prayers: Only the innocent dare pray as David does, and only the wicked need fear the fate which David petitions God to execute.

    There are many places on the internet and in books not to mention the scripture itself where one can find out that David is qualified for this type of prayer in this situation because he is completely innocent. David loves God with all of his heart and knows that God would not strike down any man on the account of another on any basis other than the suffering of a child of God for “righteousness sake”.

    Those words being said about imprecation and the right standing of ones own heart and mind in respect to God, I DO NOT believe that the United States was “free from sin” in going after Osama. Of course not, our nation is so incredibly corrupt and far from God it’s unbelievable. However as a Christian, one who reports to no man, but to a holy, perfect and pure God, Osama has accused me and my Christian brothers of being unholy in God’s eyes and sentenced me to death. A death that him and his al qaeda brothers wish to carry out in all nations of the world. Consider this description…

    The United States Department of Defense defines Al-Qaeda as:

    “A radical Sunni Muslim umbrella organization established to recruit young Muslims into the Afghani mujahideen and is aimed to establish Islamist states throughout the world, overthrow ‘un-Islamic regimes’, expel US soldiers and Western influence from the Gulf, and capture Jerusalem as a Muslim city.”

    In addition Osama bin-Laden released a statement declaring the religious edict to all Muslims in which he said:

    “[t]he ruling to kill the Americans and their allies- civilians and military— is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah’.”

    This is stating that this many has called me a sinner in God’s eyes and treated me with evil that I am NOT GUILTY OF. This preeminent threat is very real to me and might be real to other Christians as well. This is where I believe that I am justified in the use of prayer for the purpose of imprecation. David was innocent of the accusations his enemies had put upon him and he was suffering evil for that purpose.

    To finalize this discussion let me put into your mind the image of the widow, sitting in her dark home on september 11, 2011 mourning another passed anniversary of her husbands slaying because he wasn’t a muslim extremist. Her husband was the pastor of a word of faith church. He believed in the Bible and he did what was right in spite of the desires of his own flesh. His death sentence, ordered by Osama Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda organization, was carried out by a plane, ordered to be captured and flown into a building to kill him so that he was one less “christian” in a “muslims” world.

    I believe that Osama Bin Laden was a terrible man. He was an enemy of my God at his deepest level and he is an enemy to my Christian brothers. He is dead now. I rejoice in this. His organization should soon follow and until that day I will pray prayers of imprecation against the Al Qaeda, for their swift destruction and the intervention of a mighty and holy God.

    • padresteve

      Daniel
      I love getting preached at by people like you. It’s good to know that you have the inside gouge from God about all of this. I’m glad that someone does. By the way do you do this to every website that you visit? It’s amazing how you assume seem to that I’m somehow on Bib Laden’s side but then maybe you just don’t bother to read something with any depth or nuance. Pray away my friend but maybe you should start by praying for yourself as you seem to have a lot of anger and bitterness not just to Al Qaeda but to this country. Thanks for stopping by.
      Peace
      Padre Steve+

  4. Josh2222

    I’m a caucasian athiest. I’m a 25 years old american and I think anyone celebrating is sick and ignorant.

    • padresteve

      Josh
      So what you can have your opinion no one takes that away from you but your ignorant and obnoxious attitude makes me sick….but I am not ignorant. Grow up.
      Thanks for stopping by I get credit for you on my stats.
      Padre Steve+

      • John Erickson

        Oh, come on now, Padre. You made up Josh just to make me feel better about my “foxhole” comment on your subsequent Crane-esque post. I thank you for caring for my feelings so much! 😀 (Though I think you may have over-done the pinheaded-ness a little bit. 😉 )

      • padresteve

        John
        Trust me I didn’t make up anyone. Sometimes someone waltzes right in and makes enough of an ass of themselves to to make my day!
        Blessings
        Steve+

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